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Posted on September 25, 2013
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Listener’s Buffy/Angel Rewatch (B5.10)

Buffy 5.10: Into the Woods

  • Oh thank goodness… this is the one that writes Riley off the show.
  • If my notes are a bit sparse for the first half of the show, it’s because I’m enjoying some delicious Mexican food leftovers.
  • I know stuff is tough right now between Riley and Buffy, but he would at least be touching her somehow, as reassurance.
  • I think it would’ve been brilliant if they didn’t tell the actors what the next scene was after the doctor walked in, and just made them play it however they thought was right. That’s the kind of thing I would do if I ran a show. I realize you miss out on some planned reaction shots, but regardless… that’s the way I act when I do narrations and voice work. I make it so that I don’t know what’s coming the first time I perform it, so I can recapture the verite of the moment.
  • Graham and Nick Chinlund are coming back. Nice.
  • Anya is a very strange individual.
  • "I’m only sleeping over here so Buffy and Riley can boink." Dawn: the original shipper.

  • …and you haven’t even slept with him yet, Buffy!
  • Good writing with Riley’s reply.

  • Look, we all get it: Buffy and Riley have sex. They are two consenting adults who have been in a relationship for several months. We knew it was going to happen tonight. I don’t think we needed to see it just to see Spike outside being all emo.
  • Given how often we see Buffy enjoying herself having sex with Riley, why do so many fanfic writers say he was boring in bed? I NEVER thought that.
  • Oooh… Buffy sideboob…

  • I still appreciate that a PA somewhere is making sure we always see Riley’s scar.
  • That same PA could’ve made it a little less obvious that Riley leaving the house was added later as a sound effect.
  • I’m wondering if Spike could bite at the suck-house without triggering the chip.
  • Point of order: most wigs are made of real hair. At least in my experience.

  • I know it’s still creepy to even think about admitting to your parents that you have sex, but once you’re an adult, as long as you’re being consensual about it, your parents can’t really get on your ass about it. And Joyce seems like a pretty cool mom, all told; I think she not only knows that Buffy and Riley are sleeping together, but I think she approves of it because she likes Riley.
  • So, wait, Graham and company have been here in Sunnydale all this time?
  • One would think all the vampires in the suck-house are quite aware that (a) the slayer lives in Sunnydale (b) the slayer is short and blond (c) the slayer could kill them all at any moment. I’d think they’d have descended on her the moment she walked in. I can suspend disbelief, but only so far.
  • Well, Buffy, on the bright side he’s not sleeping with her. He’s just donating blood. And isn’t blood donation a positive thing?
  • I realize Spike showed Buffy what Riley was doing for his own purposes, but I also know that he cares enough about her not to be happy that she’s hurting.
  • "Was that the slayer?" Holy crap these vampires are morons.
  • I seem to remember, back in the early days of this show, that most normal humans couldn’t take vampires. Riley isn’t a super-soldier anymore. He has training and is a good fighter, but I doubt he could just lay out even a fledge with one punch.
  • Nick Chinlund’s voice makes him seem way more sinister than the character actually is.
  • "She’s newly human and strangely literal."
  • I’m not quite sure why we’ve added this C-plot of Anya being bitchy.
  • "I hadn’t seen it since my Ripper days." Um… I’d almost forgot about that angle, and honestly there’s way too much Ripper in fanfic. That’s why I’ve never included it in mine.
  • "I just want to apologize for the use of the word ‘crib’."
  • Okay, that little brazier would not have caught the house on fire that quickly. Also, given that the house backs up to an alley, I’m not sure that I buy the fact that it looks like a house. Houses don’t back up to alleys like that, not in towns like Sunnydale. Maybe in, like, Philadelphia or something. (That’s not a slight against Philadelphia; I just happen to know that houses are designed that way there in some places.)
  • Now THAT was a good shot to go to commercial on.
  • "Plastic wood grain." Okay, that brings up an interesting question: if you shred a vampire’s heart with something that isn’t wood, the heart is destroyed. Wouldn’t that kill the vampire anyway?
  • Camera placement in the final crypt shot indicates that the crypt isn’t a full set — not at that point — or that they pulled the wall away to shoot it long. But it makes the crypt feel too fake.
  • What is the funny thing you can do on the vaulting horse? Now I really want to know.
  • There’s the good ol’ Eve Ast punching bag.
  • Wait, was that Riley trying to put a little monster in things? Because… no.
  • Funny that Riley says ‘spun’. I have a friend from the midwest who says the same thing.
  • So he DID sleep with them? Now that I don’t believe. Riley doesn’t sleep around.
  • Actually, technically, it’s the Watcher who has to be on top of everything all the time, not the Slayer. The Slayer is supposed to be a tool. A weapon. Buffy is something different.
  • Hey, look, Giles stocked upon a case of Evlan water.
  • Are vampires, like, inherently stupid? How many Big Bads has Buffy killed, and this vamp still thinks he has what it takes?
  • She DID warn you, dumbass.
  • No one — NO ONE — leaves an alley entrance to a warehouse or shop open like this.
  • I don’t buy that Xander would’ve been that direct in his chat with Buffy. He’s not really that kind of guy. Yeah, the writers were trying to make him more manly and assertive, but that was too assertive.
  • We know that Marti Noxon is a great writer, but the end of this episode just felt sloppy.
  • Riley must already have packed his stuff if he had time to run home, change into a sweater (WHY? IT’S SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!), and then make it to wherever this chopper is staging.
  • Also, how did Buffy know where the chopper would be?
  • Riley would be wearing ear protectors. It’s unsafe to chopper without them.
  • The music was excellent in this “Buffy runs” scene. I’m sure NO ONE believed she wouldn’t make it. Good job, Thomas Wanker.
  • Lest we forget there’s an “Anya’s apartment” set…
  • I guess it was nice that we got to see Anya and Xander elevate their relationship, and I get why he chose to do it tonight, but that part of the episode, again, felt sloppy.

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